Ivette's inquiry (ugh this alliterative bullshit)

[ivette]

Hello, ladies!

Just yesterday I congratulated you two on the games you've played to get to this point, but I'd like to take the opportunity to do it again. Game well played.

I said I have no bitterness, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go easy on you two.

You probably noticed I constantly questioned the taste level of players in this game and some past players when it comes to the BB players representing them. I assume you both have a working knowledge of the players representing you. Please explain why you chose to play as Chima or Elissa and how you think you, as a player and a person, are similar or different from the woman representing you. I know there's more Elissa footage incoming, so I won't hold it against you if you can't go into as much detail as Chima. I won't let personal preference factor into my decision. You may be brief.

Chima: I was going to hound you about casting the only two votes to evict I received in this game and make you grovel at my feet, but we both know that would be pointless because both of your votes make perfect sense. I do, however, want to know if there was ever a time when the nominations DIDN'T go the way you wanted, and how you handled (or didn't handle! there can be points for honesty) the situation. There were at least two occasions where you saved either Eric's or your own ass by winning a veto competition. If you lost Eric before the jury, what would you have done? I know it's purely speculative, but do your best to paint this picture for me, because I don't think you would have been a target so long as Eric was in the game, and that was until the F5.

Elissa: You took credit for many evictions and miscellaneous things.
1) You listed Sam and Will's names. Are you saying you spearheaded these evictions? If so, how did you go about getting Sam and Will out? Why did it benefit your game at that time?
2) Explain how you convinced Helen into putting Gina on the block during the FF eviction. How did that go down?
3) If Chima didn't win POV during the F5 round, how would you have ensured her eviction against Eric?
4) If what you said about Chima possibly taking me to the final two if I had made a deal with her is true, well, that's a very serious accusation. Chima is dumb if that's true, and I would not respect her. Convince me that's a true statement, beyond your intuition.

I'll follow up with you guys if I have time and/or I think you're full of bullshit. Good luck! ;D

[chima]

YOU HAVE LONG QUESTIONS SO I WILL POST THEM TOMORROW! I WORK 8AM-10PM SO PLEASE BE PATIENT!

[ivette]

I won't hold it against either of you! I wanted to get this up ASAP because I'm going away for the weekend and I wanted to get in as much fun as possible.

[chima]

HOW DO I REPRESENT CHIMA

I PICKED TO PLAY AS CHIMA BECAUSE SHE'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE
PLAYERS FROM BIG BROTHER AND SHE IS A CHARACTER I WILL NEVER
FORGET. I LOVED HER ATTITUDE SO MUCH! SHE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY
SHE JUST SAID IT RIGHT IN THEIR FACE. SHE COULD GET INTO A FIGHT
NO PROBLEM IF THAT WAS NECESSARY TO GET HER WAY.

NOW HOW DO I REPRESENT HER? BECAUSE I CAN BE JUST AS BOLD
AS HER. DID I BEFRIEND NICK? NEVER. I STOOD MY GROUND
AGAINST HIM AND CONFRONTED HIM WITH NO FEAR. THAT'S EXACTLY
HOW CHIMA WOULD HAVE HANDLED THE SITUATION.

SHE'S ALSO PRETTY GOOD AT COMPETITIONS AND I WAS TOO.

HOWEVER, I THINK ONE THING THAT MAKES ME DIFFERENT OF
CHIMA IS I AM NOT A QUITTER IN ANY WAYS. WHEN THINGS DID
NOT GO HER WAY, SHE WOULD KIND OF GIVE UP AND GET PISSED
OFF. BUT I'M NOT LIKE THAT. I'LL KEEP MY HEAD IN AND CONTINUE
MY BATTLE.

NOMINATIONS THAT DIDN'T GO MY WAY

YES, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN NOMINATIONS DID NOT GO MY WAY.

THE FIRST TIME IT DID NOT GO MY WAY IS WHEN SAM & POOPDECK
WENT UP. IT SOUNDS DUMB BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING EVERYONE
WOULD HAVE SEEMED TO AGREE WITH, BUT I DID HAVE THE INTENTION OF
WORKING WITH BOTH OF THEM VERY EARLY IN THE GAME BUT WITH THEM
NOMINATED, I HAD TO LOSE ONE OF THEM.

I DON'T REMEMBER OF A CERTAIN WAY I HANDLED THE SITUATION
BESIDES JUST VOTING FOR EITHER ONE OF THEM. I JUST CONTINUED
MY OWN GAME WITH OTHER PLAYERS LEFT.

ON THE WEEK JANELLE WAS NOMINATED, I WAS NOT A BIG FAN OF THAT
DECISION BECAUSE I KNEW THAT BOTH JANELLE & GINA STAYING
WOULD KEEP THEM BOTH BUSY. BUT I KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT BECAUSE
THAT DID NOT REALLY AFFECT MY GAME THAT BAD AND JANELLE HAD
STARTED TAKING HER DISTANCES FROM ME ANYWAYS.

AFTER THOSE TWO, I THINK TWO MORE NOMINATIONS THAT LEFT A BAD
TASTE IN MY MOUTH WERE THE WEEKS HELEN & ELISSA HAD WON HOH BACK
TO BACK. I FELT LIKE MY CLOSER ALLIES WERE YOU, ERIC, AND GINA, AND
WITH HELEN & ELISSA WINNING BACK TO BACK THAT JUST KEPT SENDING AN
ALLY HOME EVERYTIME. I HANDLED THE SITUATION BY WINNING THE POWER OF
VETO COMPETITIONS I GUESS. THEY STRIKE WITH HOH COMP? I STRIKE WITH
POV COMP!

SPECULATION ABOUT GAME WITHOUT ERIC.

HMM, WELL SPECULATIONS ARE ALWAYS TRICKY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY
PREDICT EVERYTHING AND ALL COMPETITION WINNERS BUT ...

IF I LOST ERIC BEFORE THE JURY, I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE PLAYED
DIFFERENTLY REALLY. AFTER ALL, ERIC DID NOT WIN SO MANY COMPETITIONS
BESIDES THE FIRST ONE, SO THE ENTIRE GAME I PRETTY MUCH HAD TO PLAY
'WITHOUT HIM' IN A CERTAIN SENSE. SO I THINK THE GAME WOULD HAVE
BEEN VERY SIMILAR, BESIDES MAYBE A QUICKER PECKING ORDER OF THE
THREATS BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PAIR. ALSO,
NOT BEING LINKED TO WILL AS MUCH AS I WAS BECAUSE OF ERIC. BUT
I'M NOT 100% SURE IF CHILLTOWN WOULD STILL HAVE APPROACHED ME WITHOUT
ERIC OR NOT.

[elissa]

1) You listed Sam and Will's names. Are you saying you spearheaded these evictions? If so, how did you go about getting Sam and Will out? Why did it benefit your game at that time?

I think you misunderstood. I had minimal role in their evictions. I didn't mean to imply I was taking credit for them being evicted. I was merely stating their names to skip forward to Gina.

2) Explain how you convinced Helen into putting Gina on the block during the FF eviction. How did that go down?

As soon as Helen won HoH. I knew that this was my best chance to get Gina out of the game. I went to Helen and told her that with her winning HoH, it would be just me in the HoH. Clearly Chima/Eric (the survivor) had to be evicted in the final five so Gina would be in the final four. The odds weren't very good. I told her we had to strike a week earlier than expected. She would put Chimeric up as planned but put up Gina as a replacement nom in the event the veto was used. It was Elissa getting Gina put up, not Helen and Elissa. I'd also like to point out that I was very welcome to the idea of Helen leaving in week 3. I did not play the game with her as people think.

3) If Chima didn't win POV during the F5 round, how would you have ensured her eviction against Eric?

I had already convinced Helen that Eric was the weaker player so she would have saved him. I knew she was worried about competition stats so it would be very easy to get her to evict Chima, especially after being nominated by her. (Twice?)

4) If what you said about Chima possibly taking me to the final two if I had made a deal with her is true, well, that's a very serious accusation. Chima is dumb if that's true, and I would not respect her. Convince me that's a true statement, beyond your intuition.

I believe without a shadow of a doubt that Chima was only trying to get to the end without thinking of what the consequences were. She knew she was a big target so her only option was to accept any offer brought up to her by you, Helen and I. I got to her first which I believe is the only reason I'm here over you. I always believed you had a better relationship than her and I had. The fact is that Chima and I did not have the best relationship so why would she have such a sudden interest in going to the end with me? She was cornered. In the final four, only one person needed to vote. As the final five, her partner was being evicted so as she was scared and alone, she took her only option, siding with me.

[chima]

Aug 22, 2013 1:21:51 GMT -4 elissa said:

1) You listed Sam and Will's names. Are you saying you spearheaded these evictions? If so, how did you go about getting Sam and Will out? Why did it benefit your game at that time?

I think you misunderstood. I had minimal role in their evictions. I didn't mean to imply I was taking credit for them being evicted. I was merely stating their names to skip forward to Gina.


As soon as Helen won HoH. I knew that this was my best chance to get Gina out of the game. I went to Helen and told her that with her winning HoH, it would be just me in the HoH. Clearly Chima/Eric (the survivor) had to be evicted in the final five so Gina would be in the final four. The odds weren't very good. I told her we had to strike a week earlier than expected. She would put Chimeric up as planned but put up Gina as a replacement nom in the event the veto was used. It was Elissa getting Gina put up, not Helen and Elissa. I'd also like to point out that I was very welcome to the idea of Helen leaving in week 3. I did not play the game with her as people think.


I had already convinced Helen that Eric was the weaker player so she would have saved him. I knew she was worried about competition stats so it would be very easy to get her to evict Chima, especially after being nominated by her. (Twice?)

4) If what you said about Chima possibly taking me to the final two if I had made a deal with her is true, well, that's a very serious accusation. Chima is dumb if that's true, and I would not respect her. Convince me that's a true statement, beyond your intuition.

I believe without a shadow of a doubt that Chima was only trying to get to the end without thinking of what the consequences were. She knew she was a big target so her only option was to accept any offer brought up to her by you, Helen and I. I got to her first which I believe is the only reason I'm here over you. I always believed you had a better relationship than her and I had. The fact is that Chima and I did not have the best relationship so why would she have such a sudden interest in going to the end with me? She was cornered. In the final four, only one person needed to vote. As the final five, her partner was being evicted so as she was scared and alone, she took her only option, siding with me.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK YOU PUPPET MASTERED HELEN INTO BACKDOORING GINA BECAUSE HELEN HAD ALREADY TALKED TO ME ABOUT BACKDOORING GINA THE ROUND SAM WAS LEAVING. HELEN WAS ALSO CLUEING THAT SHE WOULD TURN ON GINA AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER SINCE LIKE WEEK 4, WHEN SHE SNITCHED HER ALIAS [CHELSIA FROM SAUSAGE] TO ME AND SAID SHE WANTED HER GONE SOON. THE POINT IS, GETTING GINA OUT WAS ALREADY ON HELEN'S MIND FOR A LONG TIME. AND I DON'T THINK JUST TELLING HELEN TO DO IT IS REALLY THAT BIG OF A MOVE FROM *YOU*.

YOU ALSO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH WILL'S EVICTION. YOU DID NOTHING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, NOTHING. WHAT I REMEMBER THOUGH IS, GINA CAN CORRECT ME IF MY MEMORY IS WRONG BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT CHAT ANYMORE, BUT WHEN GINA WON THE VETO, YOU WERE INSTEAD SPENDING YOUR STRATEGY TIME ATTACKING HELEN'S GAME TO GINA.

I THINK YOU WERE PERCEVING ME & ERIC AS THE NO GAME PEOPLE, THE ONES COMPLETELY ON THE OUTS, BUT I THINK THAT ONLY SHOWS HOW LITTLE YOU WERE READING THE GAME. ERIC WAS MY CLOSEST ALLY, BUT I ALSO DID HAVE AN ALLIANCE WITH IVETTE & GINA. HOW CAN YOU BE SO CONFIDENT THAT GINA & IVETTE WOULD HAVE BEEN ON BOARD TO GET THE "SURVIVOR - THAT YOU CALL" EVICTED? HONESTLY, I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE JUST STRIKED AT YOU & HELEN TO SPLIT YOU UP. AND NO DOUBT IN MY MIND ANYONE IN THIS GAME WERE GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THE END. I JUST DID THE SAME THING. AND I'M SURE WE SHARE THE SAME REASONS AS TO WHY WE WOULD BRING YOU HERE.

I DID NOT GO TO THE END OF THE GAME WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU STROKE A DEAL WITH ME. I WAS GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THE END, DEAL OR NOT. I WAS A HUNDRED TIMES CLOSER TO IVETTE THAN I WAS TO YOU. I'VE SPOKEN GAME WITH IVETTE SINCE WEEK THREE, WE'VE ONLY BEGUN TALKING ON FINAL FIVE BECAUSE WE ENDED UP BEING ON THE SAME PAGE AT THAT POINT OF THE GAME AND IVETTE TURNED INTO A JURY THREAT.

I WAS NOT LEFT WITH NO OPTION AND "CORNERED, SCARED AND ALONE", ELISSA. I WAS SITTING MUCH PRETTIER THAN YOU THINK IN FINAL FOUR. I CAN'T WAIT YOU READ THESE EPISODES, ELISSA.

[elissa]

You have the reading comprehension of a mouse.

[ivette]

Speaking of reading comprehension, I still would like to know how you are similar and different from Elissa. Chima ready told me her answer