Welcome!

[ivette]

Very classy

[Eric Stein]

Did Elissa give up or something?

[ivette]

her game strategy is now her jury strategy

[Gina Rio]

LMAO.

[Helen Kim]

I'm interested in both of these answers. If Elissa can stop the charade and be humble she'll get my pity vote. If not, then Chima obviously deserves the win and my vote goes to her.

[Helen Kim]

3. BRONZE MEDAL GOES TO HELEN.
I PUT HER THERE BECAUSE SHE PLAYED THE GAME HARD, AND
DID MAKE SOME PRETTY GOOD MOVES. ON WEEK 3, SHE HAD HER
BACK COMPLETELY AGAINST THE WALL AND FOUND A WAY TO
CAMPAIGN OUT OF IT. HELEN WAS ALSO PRETTY GOOD AT
COMPETTIONS. BUT I PUT HER UNDER GINA & IVETTE BECAUSE
SHE HAD LESS INFLUENCE IN THE VOTES THAN THEY DID. SHE
OFTEN WANTED SOMEONE OUT, AND THE OPPOSITE HAPPENED.

What does she mean by that last statement? The only time someone went home that I "didn't want going home" was Gary, but it's not like him leaving fucked up my game. Sallie was NEVER the target, it was always Gary who had to leave that week, but after Sallie's rant I wanted her gone because she would be more likely to go after me than Gary would. Any other time I voted with majority and had absolutely no qualms with the person leaving.

[Helen Kim]

Yeah no I'm sorry I cannot vote for Chima to win the game. You all can do what you want, I know Elissa is sucking majorly but I cannot give my vote to someone who was so in the dark that she resorts to attacking jurors for trying to show her that she was wrong about basically everything in this game. Look at Chima's game; did she really do anything impressive? Like, at all? You just know she thinks she's the shit and that's why she's so calm and collected in her answers and feels comfortable in attacking another juror. Elissa, on the other hand, is only trying to make her game more credible because she doesn't feel confident at all, and in the end, Elissa played a better game than Chima and therefor is getting my vote. Not even any of the pre-game BS because I know she was awful in this game, just less awful than Chima imo.

[Sam Wallace]

Elissa went M.I.A *dead*

[Helen Kim]

I think Elissa has stuff going on today, she told me she'll answer all of the questions tonight. Don't be r00d.

[Helen Kim]

Chima and Elissa are both sucking at these questions but at least Elissa knew what was going on in this game. Chima literally couldn't get a clue if it hit her in the face.

[Eric Stein]

I disagree entirely Helen. I think there was a lot of things that went down pre-jury that maybe you were in control of and she was hoping for- that didn't go on. But come Jury she had her cards dealt right. I mean you were on "pretty" good terms with her. She was friends with everyone and told them exactly what they wanted and needed to hear to either build them up or break them down.

I think maybe you're a little biased (No offense, I am too) and I think your questions are the first ones to actually call Chima something she isn't and she was defending it. And defending it HARD. I think it's clear Chima is the most deserving of all 16 of us. Her competition record and she would at least talk to me about her plans and they overall went exactly how she wanted them to, until my departure of course. But even then she managed to bounce back up. I think she overall had the best idea.

As far as her being a target in the first few rounds due to her "annoyance," I just call that being noticed.

[Helen Kim]

I'm not being biased at all here. Last page, I was thinking of throwing my vote on Chima because at that moment she deserved it so much more in my eyes. But now that she's actually answered my question (attacking me in the meantime) I realized that no, she doesn't deserve my vote, much less the win. What did I call her that she wasn't? Our experiences with Chima were completely different. She worked with you, you were her partner. I tried working with her, and she never wanted to, so of course we're going to have differing opinions about her. Just because she never lied to you doesn't mean she's not a liar. I lied too, but the difference is I'm owning up to all of my lies whereas she wasn't. And what did I call her that she wasn't? I was completely honest in all of my questions and statements to her. I don't think she's the devil or anything, but she was certainly clueless about everything happening in the game when she defended something that was so completely wrong.

[Helen Kim]

I was literally cool or in control of every single person leaving when they did. In hindsight, it would've been smarted to keep Janelle over Will since she was way more loyal, yeah, but Janelle leaving when she did didn't affect my game at all. I wanted Alec gone, I wanted Poopdeck gone, I wanted Nick gone, I wanted Boogie gone. Name me one time a vote didn't go my way.

[ivette]

Aug 24, 2013 17:15:40 GMT -4 Helen Kim said:

Chima and Elissa are both sucking at these questions but at least Elissa knew what was going on in this game. Chima literally couldn't get a clue if it hit her in the face.

No you're confused, ELISSA is the white one.

[ivette]

Helen:
a) I know the votes weren't unanimous, but I don't think anybody was really fighting to keep Alec or Poopdeck in the game. The votes went your way, but they also went Chima's, Elissa's, mine and Gina's way, because we were a loosely affiliated alliance. Sure, you had the HOH to get Gina out, but Chima and Elissa were on board with that as well. The votes went your way, but they also went the way that all of your allies, excluding the one you directly back stabbed, wanted, because they went farther than you in the game.
b) You called Chima a liar, and outside of things that were said to keep people complacent, she was pretty straightforward in her gameplay. She never promised anyone anything she didn't provide for them.
c) Don't pretend that Elissa isn't acting cocky about a game she had little to nothing to do with the end result of. Elissa's best strategy would've been to remain humble and convince us that Chima was an egotistical monster. Elissa is the ego. Chima is the confident strategist. Chima has the social, physical AND strategic edge.

You know I love you, but it's almost impossible to justify voting for Elissa outside of her being your friend. Nothing you said or did changed my mind on Chima. I liked her instantly and wanted her to stay in the game. You didn't save her ass. She played an amazing game. I said from the beginning that I want to play with people who give a shit, even if it leads to my downfall. Elissa could've been evicted between Alec and Poopdeck and the game would've turned out the same. Chima made, what I think, was the most impressive move of the game: she put you and Helen on the block and tried to make it so that one of you would take yourself off the block so she could put up Will and get him evicted. That way, when she was inevitably on the block with Eric, he lost an obvious vote for him to stay in the game over her. And that, Eric, is something I don't think she wanted to happen, but she did make plans for it to happen. She knew I'd love the idea, because getting Will out of the game meant I could avoid the block much easier (and the first time I hit the block, it had nothing to do with splitting up Will and me. On the contrary, it was to split Eric and Chima, so I could be confident in knowing I was staying).